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Sunday, October 11, 2009

Gatto RR

Reflecting upon the readings we have discussed thus far, Gatto’s article where he talks about his opinion in which he believes our education system is crippling our kids, was a stance that I agree with for the most part. His opinion of encouraging the best qualities out of our students youthfulness, such as helping them use their natural qualities of curiosity, intrigue and their sense of adventure and adapt into our schooling system contrary to what is in place now . His suggestion of offering more flexibility and being able find the natural path of insight for each individual student wouldn’t just help our students become more fully rounded adults but also help them become more integrated in our society with the education they received.

I was really struck by his opposition of Ingles’ 6 functions, especially the selective function in which it discusses how the school systems application to “the favored races.” Where students are sorted into certain branches creating an inferiority, which then translated into the jobs they have options for, and is a fundamental force in what drives our economy. Instead of using alternative methods in helping the students who are tagged unfit find their niche, in learning things that are crucial to their respective personalities and ideas. But instead these students become neglected and tainted with poor grades, that doesn’t help advance who they are as people but instead giving them a leftover role of our socio-economic structure which only benefits those that weren’t subjected from the very beginning of their education as well as other external factors.

Personally, I agree with a lot of Gatto’s points because it highlights the main issues with our education system. When I was in Middle school, most teachers taught class in a traditional textbook format, but in one class, all of the assignments where open ended and designed to create an environment where critical thought and reflective discussion where more important and overshadowed the sorting functions of grades and tests. As I look back on my time in that class I see that I learned a lot more valuable information not only about the material but as well as myself , opposed to the more the traditionally taught classes that where much more frequent in my k-12 public school life.

Chris L.

"Against School" Reading Response

I love to read. I always have. I read boring things and interesting things, things I remember and mostly things I forget. Lately, I read a lot of critical things- about the government and its leaders. I’ve learned to scan over those oh-so-prevalent expressions of opinion and form my own hypothesis based on what I already know and see. But somehow Gatto’s article “Against School” struck me differently than the rants on the back page of the weekly alternative newspaper. I found myself so excited by the points he was making, so surprised to find that someone, somewhere, had put into words what I had somehow suspected to be true all along, that I nearly emailed the article to my family and friends. I still might.

That sounds geeky, I know, but it has to do with how I was raised. Due to my health, I was unable to attend public school until grade eight, at which time I myself begged my parents to let me enroll. Up until that point, my brother and I were “homeschooled” or at least that’s what we learned to call it. We rarely did anything at all which resembled the arbitrary notion of school most our peers and their parents referred to. We played outside, we read random passages out of encyclopedias for fun, we watched OPB and we cooked with our mom. We were read to at night and slept in as late as we wanted in the morning. It was hardly an ideal environment for fostering intelligence. And to be sure, when I finally entered Junior High at thirteen with no notion whatsoever of how to factor equations, I felt stupid. But I also had experiences much more valuable than the kids around me. I wasn’t used to holding my teachers in near religious reverence, so we related on a more human level. I had never before been punished for getting up to relieve myself without permission and it seemed dehumanizing. And finally, the phenomenon of being “too smart” or “over achieving” would have seemed nearly comical had it not come with so much stigma.

Gatto’s article addressed all these areas and many more. From briefly looking over some of the other responses to this essay, I can tell it was not generally well received. But that seems to prove exactly Gatto’s point. Most children who are taken through a compulsory schooling and spit out, after 12 years, at a point where they can finally choose what they learn and how they learn it, are wholly unprepared to think of their education as anything but obligatory. Having worked very hard myself to get back into school, but not having a classical history in the school system, I can see how “critical thinking”- the type of processes encouraged in higher education but rarely in a mandatory schooling, is key to becoming an educated and well rounded person. But it can only be achieved after the method of thought we have learned from our k-12 education has been abandoned. I don’t think Gatto is really “against school”. I think he is simply against dogmatic thought and its propagation in America’s public school systems. But his point was made and it, incidentally, made me very glad indeed to be back in school at all.


Kate S.

Saturday, October 10, 2009

Gatto

I loved Gatto's idea, saying that we dont need school to be educated and showed many people from history who were successful without going to school. I completely support that idea, because i do believe a person can be successful and can survive without school. That we can educate ourselves. There so many things that i taught myself that i didn't learn from teachers.

istar Abu

Buffalo Gals

This story is amazing because its makes you wonder if animals would show so much kindness to a human, and it is also unbelievable how a little girl would lay next to a coyote, and not be scaried. There was one point in the story where the coyote explains to the Gal that there were only two kinds of people, and tells the child that the first people were animals, children etc. I that the coyote was inferring that the animals where the first people created. I do believe that animals were created first before humans. But i wouldn't call animals people though. I liked this story because, i loved the sensivity of the animals. And i do think that some animals a kind.

istar Abu

Friday, October 9, 2009

Freire’s article discussed the current school system as a “banking system”, where information is deposited into the students in order to be regurgitated at a later date and proposed a “problem posing” system that would encourage critical thinking instead of regurgitation of information. Freire claimed that this banking system dehumanizes students and discourages individuality. I agree for the most part with the opinion of the article. A system of education that treats its students like ATM machines, does nothing more than dehumanize them enough to fulfill their role in our mechanical society. Public schooling was initially brought up during the renaissance by “humanists” in order to produce educated citizens who would be able to take part in their civic duties. I don’t think these “humanists” understood the dehumanizing consequences of molding prospective citizens into memorizing and repeating machines. Education should be about letting students reach their full potential as critically thinking humans instead of turning out robots to maintain the state of society.

Le Guin

Human/Nature

MacCormack/Ghnaim


I wanted to point out the differences between left and right, west and east. These metaphors were present throughout the entirety of the work. Some quotes:


"She kept her hand pressed over the right eyesocket".- pg. 62 (hurting her eye)

"… only the long west (left) held a great depth of pale radiance. Eastward (right) the plains ran down into night".- pg. 67 (getting a new eye)

"The eastern mountains were a cloudy dark red as if the level light shone through them as through a hand held before the fire".- pg. 75 (waking, day of Coyote's death)

"Sun went down the last slope of the west and left a pale green clarity over the desert hills".- pg. 77 (Before Coyote eats poison)


I would say that based on these quotes the right would be the "bad", "dark" side, and the left is the "pure", "light" side. Every time right/east is mentioned, included is either night, red, fire, pain. Every time left/west is mentioned, included is either radiance or "pale… clarity".

evan t.

Buffalo Gals

Courtney Timms
Human/Nature
Alan MacCormack/Safa Ghaim

The Buffalo Gals
“So, to me you’re basically grayish yellow and run on four legs. To that lot-” Coyote from Le Guin

After reading this quote I began to think about how much as humans, we are drastically alike. We seem to separate ourselves with our person “identities” and in that we forget how similar each of us really is. To survive our basic needs need to be met. It made me realize in every person you see there is a similarity you and that person share, whether its slim; like needing food and water. Or may be more complex like sharing the same cultural customs, religion, or traditions. I have found myself in the past saying, “Well we don’t have much in common.” But in the realm of things if you dive deep enough to try and get to know one another you can find many things in common.